First week with the Apple TV 4th Generation

Last Friday I received my new 4th Generation Apple TV (note to people living in Southern California…don’t pay extra for rush shipping from Apple as products shipped from Apple tend to arrive quickly) and I’ve been playing with it on and off since. For years now, I’ve been looking for the best way to handle my family’s video entertainment needs. I’ve played with a number of streaming boxes including the Apple TV 1st generation, Apple TV 2nd generation, Roku 3, and Fire TV 1st generation. With the exception of the 1st generation Apple TV, all the boxes have served some of our needs.

When my wife first wanted to watch Netflix, I bought the 2nd generation Apple TV as watching it on our Nintendo Wii was not really something I wanted to do. At the time, we were recording shows with El Gato’s EyeTV and playing it through a Mac Mini. Having 2 devices was not ideal, so I pieced together a setup to put the EyeTV recordings into iTunes and then play them on the Apple TV. This setup worked quite well for several years.

Two years ago when I bought a new Vizio TV that had Amazon Prime Video (and Netflix) as apps in it, I tried to use it and found the UI to be impossible to use. I had heard good things about the Roku, so I purchased one. That left me with 2 boxes, one for Amazon Prime Video/Netflix and one for recorded TV shows. I saw that Roku had a Plex app on it, so I setup Plex, changed my setup to move TV shows to Plex and I was basically back down to 1 box (except for AirPlay). Last year, I was given a Fire TV which had Netflix, Amazon Prime Video (obviously) as well as the ability to play games. It also had a Plex app so I was hopeful that this box could be the box and it would give my son the ability to learn to play some video games (yes, I know I’m corrupting my son by wanting him to play games!). Unfortunately the Fire TV’s UI (1st generation box) was pretty poor and difficult to navigate. It does have “X-Ray” for Prime Video so it has stayed in use for that as well as some games (my son likes Minecraft). I wrote about the Fire TV before.

So where did that leave me before the new Apple TV? Well, we still used the Roku 3 for most of our watching, but switched to the Fire TV for games and Amazon Prime Video. The Apple TV was only used for AirPlay. Like every streaming box I’ve tried, I was hopeful that the 4th generation Apple TV would replace all the other boxes.

After I unpacked the Apple TV, I put it in place of my old Apple TV in my equipment rack and fired up the TV. Due to issues with RF signals, I was expecting to have to mount it on the wall, but was going to put that off for awhile (turns out the Bluetooth on it is good enough that I can just leave it on the top shelf of my rack). When I started the setup for the Apple TV, I couldn’t understand why moving my finger on the remote didn’t change the menus. Turns out I had the same problem that others have, I was holding the remote upside down. This does continue to be a problem for me that I have to solve. The Apple TV is able to turn my TV on and off using HDMI-CEC which is an awesome feature. Also, the volume buttons control my Vizio sound bar via IR, so the Apple TV remote is on track to be the only remote I need.

On day 1, we were able to watch Netflix and play a few games. I did buy the Nimbus SteelSeries game controller so that we could more easily play games. Pangea had a number of titles available and since I had already bought them on the iPad and the games were universal purchase, I could download them for no additional charge. There were a few other games available as well. My son and I played games and in general, they work well with the game controller. No Minecraft or Goat Simulator, yet, so the Fire TV still has to be connected.

After a few days, Plex appeared on the app store and I quickly downloaded it. It took me about a day to figure out why all my video was being transcoded when being played, but after that, Plex seemed to work well (I had set the maximum bandwidth for the streaming to be 10 Mbps instead of unlimited). The only feature that Plex is missing is the ability to delete episodes. I like the scrubbing and the navigation works well. I do have to train my wife to use the remote and Plex, but that will come with time.

Now that I had a few games, Netflix, and Plex, the Apple TV could become the primary device. I unplugged the Roku (I’ll probably have to plug it back in for my wife until she gets used to the Apple TV, however). I am very close to making the Apple TV the only box we need and I have high hopes that this will happen. However, Amazon has to get off its high horse and port their iPad Amazon Prime Video app to the Apple TV, Minecraft has to be ported as well as Goat Simulator. (Yes, Goat Simulator is a dumb game, but my son loves it.) Given that these are all on the iPad, it shouldn’t be a monstrous effort (famous last words) to bring them to the Apple TV.

I’ve been using the Apple TV for a week and am really enjoying it; I’ve been playing Oceanhorn on it, watching Netflix and TV shows via Plex. My son has been watching Bill Nye via Netflix and playing a few games. He loves the box because one remote turns the TV on and off, changes volume, and he can use Siri to skip ahead; I’m not so enamored by Siri as he is. I really hope to retire the Fire TV, but Amazon Prime Video will likely prevent that from happening.

Even without 4K video (I don’t have a 4K TV and all of my content is at most 1080p), the Apple TV, in my opinion, is the box to get for people that don’t have anything today. For people that already have an Apple TV or another box, the decision becomes a lot more difficult. The Roku boxes work real well for video; they just didn’t have the ability to play many games (casual gaming). The Fire TV (1st generation at least before the promised software update), has a horrible UI. If someone needs/wants Amazon Prime Video, the only real option today (sorry, AirPlay from an iPad isn’t a viable option), is the Roku. The Apple TV has tons of potential and does most of what I need it to do today. I’m quite satisfied with the purchase. (It doesn’t hurt that I managed to get a good price for my used 2nd generation Apple TV on eBay.)

2 Replies to “First week with the Apple TV 4th Generation”

  1. I have the new Apple TV too and I’ve got a Bose sound system (Cinemate 10) that all of my stuff connects through. I can control the Apple TV with the Bose remote, or, the rest of my stuff as well as the Bose with the new Apple TV remote.

    My problems happened at initial pairing: The Apple TV recognized my iPhone 6s for bluetooth pairing, but then, they lost each other and the connection could not be reestablished. I’ve read many are having this problem. I continued with setup but I really missed Apple’s remote app when it came to my complex 1Password passwords for both my Apple ID and Netflix. Why on earth, if Apple going to pair the iPhone and the Apple TV doesn’t Apple allow Touch ID to be used here, I have no idea. It seems like a terrible oversight and it needs fixing if Apple isn’t going to support the remote app.

    Thanks for this great review of the entire landscape Scott.

    1. Thanks, Richard! I’ve spent countless hours trying to make this all easy to use for my family. While my wife isn’t a technophobe, she doesn’t like change and I have to make sure everything works.

      I forgot to mention how insane entering passwords is; Apple will address it as it is painful. I went ahead and told the Apple TV to not prompt for a password, but also setup a restriction for in-app purchases as well as general purchases. The restriction is not that I don’t trust my son, it’s because I don’t trust apps/Apple to make it more than a few clicks to purchase something…it will be too easy.

      I have no idea when this will be addressed, but there is no way that Apple can just let this continue for too long.

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